I recommend people use tools for practice plates. wrenches, hammers, sockets, , lots of different shapes, contours, and sizes, in all sorts of finishes and hardness levels. just like the real world. and you have to learn how to hold them as well.
Lee, I think we can go ahead and start getting your name on the plaques for Best of Show and Best Engraved Shotgun for the 2109 FEGA show.
I really think there must be something in that chocolate milk !