rex- just took a huge-60 round. had never used it. bottom was still factory rough-w o polishing. did a 45 face. very large scroll to allow such a large graver. you see tool chatter, and my body tremor adding to the mix. but there was no gouging effect. surface smooth as a babys' rear. cirelli sauce for drawing. if this was for an actual job, i could clean it a bit if i wanted to.