Tom white transfer fluid currently compatible printers and films

[Dani Girl]

Hi all.
Can anyone share CURRENTLY available printers and transfer films to use with tw (tom white) transfer fluid. ta

The site the transfer fluid is sold on suggests any printers using hp 61 ink... hp 62 ink... and hp 65 ink.

I've found one in officeworks in Australia using 62XL called
HPofficejet250 mobile function printer. it's 4800 x 1200dpi and has a battery that can print 500 pages. $398 aud. cartridge prints 600 pages black and 415 colour.

can anyone share pics of working colour transfer if it indeed works when colours and black are pigment inks.

ta

 

[Dani Girl]

I got an email back from Tom White. He suggested two more ink cartridges increasing the hp pigment ink list to 61, 62, 65, 67 & 68. He named four printers that should work with only the black cartridge installed which use 67 and 68 inks. I could only find any of these second hand though at a quick search.

HP DeskJet 2855e...
HP DeskJet 4255e...
HP Envy 6155e...
HP Envy 6555e...

I'm not 100% sure if this was a should work list or a definitely does work list.

 

[Dani Girl]

I've picked up a hp envy 6530e which takes 68 ink and is supposed to print with only the black installed. there was also a cheaper again model that said you need to have all cartridges installed even if the colour cartridge/s is/are empty in order to print anything. That was the hp envy 6130. I'll message again later with quality and transparency compatibility if It works or doesn't.

I got an email back from Tom White. He suggested two more ink cartridges increasing the hp pigment ink list to 61, 62, 65, 67 & 68. He named four printers that should work with only the black cartridge installed which use 67 and 68 inks. I could only find any of these second hand though at a quick search.

HP DeskJet 2855e...
HP DeskJet 4255e...
HP Envy 6155e...
HP Envy 6555e...

I'm not 100% sure if this was a should work list or a definitely does work list.

 

[Dani Girl]

I was a tad disappointed when I read that Tom recommends using standard quality... what's the highest quality (dpi?) you transfer at?

 

[Dani Girl]

ok so these transparency films don't work with a hp envy 6530e (which uses pigment ink no. 68 for black only) and tom white white solution.

 

[Dani Girl]

the elephant is tom's supplied sample transfer.

 

[Dani Girl]

does anyone re-use their transparency sheets?

 

[tdelewis]

From the photo you show, it looks as if the transparency is pulling TW's solution off the metal. You may have applied the solution too heavy, rubbed too hard, or not let the solution dry enough. I have used TW's solution and have had similar results as well as getting good transfers. It may take some experimentation. In the meantime, I have gone to using baking parchment for most all of my transfers. Just make sure that you remove the silicon form where you place the tape on the parchment or you will get a paper jam. I sand the leading edge with 320 sandpaper to remove the silicon. Go to the search tab and read the posts on using baking parchment. If you try it, I suggest covering smaller areas with the parchment to run through the printer. Something like 4 inches wide or smaller and long enough to sand the leading edge and still large enough to get the leading edge taped well to the paper. Don't try a full sheet.

 

[Dani Girl]

From the photo you show, it looks as if the transparency is pulling TW's solution off the metal. You may have applied the solution too heavy, rubbed too hard, or not let the solution dry enough. I have used TW's solution and have had similar results as well as getting good transfers. It may take some experimentation. In the meantime, I have gone to using baking parchment for most all of my transfers. Just make sure that you remove the silicon form where you place the tape on the parchment or you will get a paper jam. I sand the leading edge with 320 sandpaper to remove the silicon. Go to the search tab and read the posts on using baking parchment. If you try it, I suggest covering smaller areas with the parchment to run through the printer. Something like 4 inches wide or smaller and long enough to sand the leading edge and still large enough to get the leading edge taped well to the paper. Don't try a full sheet.

silicon form? baking paper with Tom white transfer fluid?

 

[Dani Girl]

5 and 30x zoom.
I shall make one note here... I went against Tom Whites recommendation to use auto or regular quality and chose best for the highest dpi on this run to see the print quality this machine is capable of. higher would be cool but its not bad. the other transparency papers just held the ink too well I think. and yes... rubbing too hard does cause some lifting of thr solution back off the metal... a little practice and I imagine one would sort that. I sanded the sterling sheet to 800 and wiped a few times with isopropyl alcohol. solution had a couple of minutes on the metal before I tried transferring and medium/firmish pressure with a burnisher was used.

 

[Dani Girl]

as can be seen here. most of the ink came off of the paper. does anyone clean and reuse these old epson sheets?

 

[Dani Girl]

I just noticed this hp envy 6530e has two print qualities (which I think is common) 4800 dpi for colour and 1200 dpi for black is its best. this one was very affordable new so I'm not too sore about my gamble. I can say it does work

 

[tdelewis]

Looks good. You got it . It does take some experimentation sometimes.

 

[Dani Girl]

I read elsewhere on the cafe a post by PaulE







" I just bought at Staples an HP officejet Pro 9015e inkjet printer. It works well with Tom White's formula and the transparencies he provides. The ink is a pigment ink cartridge HP962. "







also PeteB said a hp envy 5540 works fine







Archie Woodworth said the HP Envy 5052 works great.







JohnB used a HP envy 5660 with Tom white solution.

 

[Dani Girl]

I'm a tad disappointed that the hp envy 6530e I bought drops resolution to 1200x1200 dpi in black and white but it's nice it will run with only the black pigment ink cartridge in.

if you have a printer that works great WITH TOM WHITE TRANSFER MAGIC and you think it's still reasonably attainable please share.

 

[RDP]

Hi Dani, I can not help you with Tom's transfer magic, but is it really necessarily for you to use transparency film?, I have been using baking paper on a cheap "Harvey Norman" HP laser printer and Damar varnish for a number of years now and I know you're a very experienced engraver, on a rare occasion I have found that a transparency would have made the transfer much easier, but nothing that I couldn't worked around it, there is enough transparency in baking paper ( Coles, Woolies) to see where you're placing the transfers, this is a flask I did for my grandson a few years ago, I still use the same process when I need to transfer images or designs.
To overcome the glare of the varnish under the scope I just roll kids Play do over it lol.

 

[dhall]

Here's part of the complication, RDP. You're using a laser-based printer that uses "toner" (fine, black powder). Tom White's solution is designed for liquid ink or an Inkjet type of printer. The compatible printers and inks are of the inkjet family and not the laserjet types of printers.
That being said, I'm using the exact method you're using and have been doing so for almost 20 years. Similarly, I've had to jigger some to get spot-on alignment and have been very happy with my results.
I don't believe that the liquid inks set-up and dry enough on the baker's parchment, and that's why in his instructions Tom White says his solution is designed for inks, not toners, on clear transparency films.
For my purposes, I found I didn't use the inkjet printer enough to keep the nozzles clean. Kept drying out and getting plugged up, and the print head cleaning cycles ate up so much ink that it just wasn't a viable process for me. I bought the cheapest toner-based printer I could find and it's worked great for me. Everyone has to find what works best for them, and this has been my route.

Best regards,
Doug

 

[Dani Girl]

Hi Dani, I can not help you with Tom's transfer magic, but is it really necessarily for you to use transparency film?, I have been using baking paper on a cheap "Harvey Norman" HP laser printer and Damar varnish for a number of years now and I know you're a very experienced engraver, on a rare occasion I have found that a transparency would have made the transfer much easier, but nothing that I couldn't worked around it, there is enough transparency in baking paper ( Coles, Woolies) to see where you're placing the transfers, this is a flask I did for my grandson a few years ago, I still use the same process when I need to transfer images or designs.
To overcome the glare of the varnish under the scope I just roll kids Play do over it lol.

thanks ta... I can do baking paper transfers too. Just trying this new method and seeking to devote this thread to Tom White transfer solution compatibles

 

[Dani Girl]

Here's part of the complication, RDP. You're using a laser-based printer that uses "toner" (fine, black powder). Tom White's solution is designed for liquid ink or an Inkjet type of printer. The compatible printers and inks are of the inkjet family and not the laserjet types of printers.
That being said, I'm using the exact method you're using and have been doing so for almost 20 years. Similarly, I've had to jigger some to get spot-on alignment and have been very happy with my results.
I don't believe that the liquid inks set-up and dry enough on the baker's parchment, and that's why in his instructions Tom White says his solution is designed for inks, not toners, on clear transparency films.
For my purposes, I found I didn't use the inkjet printer enough to keep the nozzles clean. Kept drying out and getting plugged up, and the print head cleaning cycles ate up so much ink that it just wasn't a viable process for me. I bought the cheapest toner-based printer I could find and it's worked great for me. Everyone has to find what works best for them, and this has been my route.

Best regards,
Doug

yes inkjets clog fast. lasers can sit for years I think and still print when you ask again. That's why I haven't stuck the colour cartridges in this one I got recently.

 

[Tom White]

Danae,
If you want to send me an email to twdesigns@twdesignshone.com I would be happy to help you with the transfer process and printers it is very difficult to keep up with them when they release a couple a week it seems. On your first photo you have the white on extremely too heavy you are not painting the part you just want a very thin coating.
These HP inkjet printers should work well for transfers if you use the correct printing set-up.
The HP DeskJet 2855e All-in-One Printer and the HP DeskJet 4255e All-in-One Printer both use the 67 ink black print cartridge and should work with only the black tank installed.
Also the HP Envy 6155e All-in-One Printer and the HP Envy 6555e All-in-One Printer use the 68 ink cartridge and as well should work with only the black ink tank installed.
For successful transfers you must set the printer correctly as well if you need to set for the printer then click properties and select PLAIN PAPER NORMAL QUALITY this is important as if you select other papers and go too high on the quality the printer will not lay down enough ink for a good transfer. If you received the small test sheet of transfers you can see the amazing detail and these were printed with this setting.
Another think always use genuine HP ink tanks the cheaper aftermarket tanks will not give you a good transfer either.


I hope this helps.
Tom White
www.twdesignshone.com