A different graverhandle

[Terrezar]

As it happens I come from a district where there once was litteraly houndreds of knifemakers, and the graverhandle on the pictures is identical to one I have seen in an old picture from the workshoop of one of the fines knifemakers we ever had. I found this handle in my great uncles workshoop, but because he was dead at this point I don't know where he had gotten it.

The handle is actually quite comfortable, and haveing seen a few knives from the knifemaker who used this kind of gravers I do know they sure work fine.

Don't know if any of you have ever seen something like this before, but if you have pleace reply.

Also, if any of you have pictures of old or unusual tools, I would love to se them...

Sorry for low picture quality...

 

[mrthe]

From the photo seem more like a stone setting tool than a graver,very unusual all the way thank you for share

 

[Willem Parel]

Maybe for raising prongs for bead settings.

I think when you would heat some thermolock or protoplast ( the white stuff) you can make many more the easy way.

 

[tundratrekers@mtaonline.n]

After touching such quality, you will never be happy with plastic handles.

Beautiful.

michael

 

[Terrezar]

MrThe: I don't know much about stonesetting, but as far as I know neither did the knifemaker who used this kind of gravers. But, from what I have seen of his tools the gravers were sharpened different than the one on the pictures.

Willem Parel, and Michael, I am a sucker for the old fasioned, so I'd have to go with Michael on this one. I do find the tool beautiful. I musst, however, point out that this is not the kind of handle I personally use, but it's something funny and different that I happened to stumble upon.

Thanks for replying.

 

[atexascowboy2011]

Besides the pride, look and form of hand making a wooden handle, the handle doesn't get hot or slippery in your hand on a HOT, Texas summer day.
(Notice the best Lindsays, IMO, have wooden handles!)

AND its traditional!

Michelangelo, DaVinci and on and on, couldnt be caught using plastic handled tools!

 

[monk]

looks like the might have been shaped to better fit his hand. the hollow crook in the rear, who knows. interesting to say the least. you could pretty much determine what they were used for by carefully examing the business end of the tools. if possible, examine some of his work, maybe there's a clue there, if there are any photos that exist.

 

[Willem Parel]

Willem Parel, and Michael, I am a sucker for the old fasioned, so I'd have to go with Michael on this one. I do find the tool beautiful.

I fully agree, but I thought when it comes to ergonomic grip because of comfort or problems with your hands this stuff might be a solution.

 

[Terrezar]

looks like the might have been shaped to better fit his hand. the hollow crook in the rear, who knows. interesting to say the least. you could pretty much determine what they were used for by carefully examing the business end of the tools. if possible, examine some of his work, maybe there's a clue there, if there are any photos that exist.

Have a look:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4-p7NtorHU0/SmBnvXe3nsI/AAAAAAAAHCY/27PLWVLIoIo/s1600-h/a-TAL-01l.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4-p7NtorHU0/Sl7QDFtFy0I/AAAAAAAAG-w/yRbw7SqkIgY/s1600-h/NT-10d.jpg

 

[Adder]

Really nice knife, but I haven`t seen a graverhandle like this before. I have seen some old tools that my great grandfather had in his workshop, but nothing like that graverhandle.

Jørn-Ove

 

[Terrezar]

One of the fines Toten-knives ever made.

Jørn-Ove, was your great grandfather an engraver? I would love to see some of the tools... Oh, and by the way, do you use air-assist, or palm-push for your engravings?

 

[mrthe]

Talking about strange handles or not usual here a photo of ones that i have find in ebay i imagine that are chisel handles

 

[atexascowboy2011]

Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but it looks like a square graver to me, especially having seen the finished knives.

 

[Adder]

One of the fines Toten-knives ever made.

Jørn-Ove, was your great grandfather an engraver? I would love to see some of the tools... Oh, and by the way, do you use air-assist, or palm-push for your engravings?

My great grandfather was not an engraver, but he made all kind of things with his handmade tools, including furnitures, violins, chests etc.

I remeber that we found after his death a lot of homemade flat gravers. Most of them where made of iron-files with a birchhandle almoust like the graver at the top of Mr MRthe`S photo.

Unfortunately everthing is gone and I have nothing of these tools in my possesion today.

I have not practice my hobby engraving since late 90`s. I then could not get it right because my homemade gravers did break all the time when cutting steel, and I used all the time I had to spare grinding and sharpening my homemade gravers instead of cutting. Some silverengraving on knives I have done though.

So just before chrismas, after reading this forum for a couple of years, I invested in a air-assist graver to give it another try. And I now wonder why I gave up my hobby as an knivemaker/engraver.

Here is two pictures of what I did with my gravers made of cold-steel sawblades back then....I`m not proud now, but I was proud then

 

[Terrezar]

MrThe
I imagine you are right; they heve got to be chisels. They don't look much like regular gravers to me, but I musst also say I don't think they look much like any kind of chisel I would have made for myself either. I have, however seen gravers were the engraver would grasp the handle with his fingers, but not have the handle rest in his palm. The only Norwegian I have seen doing banknote engtavings held his gravers like this. Anyway, thanks for posting them.

2011 edition of the Texas cowboy
I don't know how the knifemaker sharpend his gravers, but the one I have is currently a 90 degree V.

Jørn-Ove
If that was done with homemade and broken gravers back in the 90's I realy don't know why you quit. Not many gets that far. I use only palm-push gravers, and I think I'll keep using palm-push beeing a stubborn, oldfasioned wierdo... But I musst say I find it quite satisfying to master the craft the oldfasioned way. When engraving on flat pices I don't realy have any problems with slipping, but I musst admit this does become a slight problem when engraving on round surfaces.

 

[Chujybear]

Up in my neck of the woods grabbers used to use long handle graver a, and draw the cutting end towards themselves. Might be the case w mrthes eBay ones.

 

[Chujybear]

Engravers. Not grabbers, no matter what I might have said before.

 

[Terrezar]

Chujybear, is the gravers for wood any different than the gravers for metal? And what kind of wood is usually used for engraving on wood?