Critique Request Backbone

[T.G.III]

 

[SamW]

Numbering the scrolls 1 through 6 from left to right...numbers 1, 4 and 6 come off their start points in the opposite flow that they should.

Number 1 should come off like number 3 does, number 4 like number 2 (in other words flipped vertically).

 

[T.G.III]

Thank you, started at the big end of number five and moved out from there.

 

[monk]

as mr sw said, the flow is destroyed by the way you have drawn them

 

[dcurrie911]

To illustrate Sam and Monk’s point here is your backbones with correct directional transitions. The red lines in the second pic shows the smooth transition you should be creating.

 

[T.G.III]

Thank you, this where I'm at so far.

 

[dcurrie911]

Your on the right path! Looking much better.

 

[T.G.III]

Better ?

 

[SamW]

Those flow properly. I suggest you always draw patterns to fill a given area/shape such as a gun part or other item.

 

[dcurrie911]

Yes, much better. Proper flow and good individual scrolls. As Sam said time to start filling different predetermined shapes. As you do so look for balance. In your design the two large scrolls overpower the others. Perhaps in your design the left large scroll could be replaced with two or three smaller scrolls?

 

[papart1]

I have a question please, I have nver known the start of left hand scroll to begin where it shows on the right hand scroll.....what is up ? paps

 

[dcurrie911]

Hi Papart1, I assume you are referring to a scroll starting from an ‘inside’ portion of a scroll rather than the outside of the backbone? In my attached pic the red lines showbeginning from the outside backbone and the blue line shows starting from ’inside. If you are referring to something else then please explain.

1st, since TG already used the inner portion of the scroll in his design I wanted keep it and just provide an alternative for him to consider. 2nd, I am not an expert and others on this sight may have different opinions but for me I prefer using the outer portion of the scroll backbone as seen below (red lines) but in some cases I use the internal (blue line). In the case shown below compare the size of the scroll starting from the blue line to the scroll on the left edge starting from the red line. Similar right? Now picture if I had started the right hand scroll from the outside of the backbone but still stayed inside of my outline. The right hand scroll would have been much smaller than the left and thrown off the balance of the finished design. By starting the right scroll from the inside of the center scroll (blue line) I could maintain size and balance of the overall design. Overlapping leaves and shading will tie everything together.

if yes then

 

[papart1]

the drawing your showing does not resemble the drawing that Mr. TG showed, its above marked "better".

 

[dcurrie911]

Papart, Agreed. I used one of my designs to illustrate my reply to your question. I’m sorry if I answered out of turn or was confusing.

 

[T.G.III]

Thank you all for the much needed input, I'm seeing scroll work differently today.

 

[T.G.III]

I have a question please, I have nver known the start of left hand scroll to begin where it shows on the right hand scroll.....what is up ? paps

Not sure I know what you're asking, I thought that that you could start out from either end of the scroll, large end/small end, apparently that is not the case, that being said with the aid of the computer the scrolls can be manipulated many ways.

 

[T.G.III]

Yes, much better. Proper flow and good individual scrolls. As Sam said time to start filling different predetermined shapes. As you do so look for balance. In your design the two large scrolls overpower the others. Perhaps in your design the left large scroll could be replaced with two or three smaller scrolls?

Thanks again for your willingness to share.

 

[papart1]

No need to apologize

 

[dcurrie911]

Hi TG. in your last redesign one of your flows was in the wrong direction again. It is easy to do.....

 

[T.G.III]

Yessir, that is a previous drawing that I shared to illustrate that I'm working with more variations. All done before this thread, thanks again for your help.