Help, please: Beading, punch supplier

[dlilazteca]

Hello everyone I hope you all had a great time with all your loved ones.

I have bought my beading / punching tools from ngraver.

They do last a very long time. But I've seen then sold for less, i just wanted to know if others are as durable. I've used mine on a glock and 3 other guns, but it's time to buy more what do you guys recommend.
Oh, one more thing I punch using a chasing hammer it would have to be long enough to hold in the hand.

Thanks





Saludos,

Carlos

 

[silverchip]

My guess is that it is not the punches but the GLOCK that is the problem. they are extremely hard and not high on the best to engrave gun list. I have a set of these punches that is 10 yrs old an still going strong, mostly because I don't smack them into heat-treated parts.

 

[Roger Bleile]

Carlos,

Stick with the NgraveR brand. They are the best and made for gun work. Also I would buy them from EngraveR because Ray Phillips is a great guy and has been a supporter of FEGA from the beginning.

 

[Beathard]

Carlos, are you sure yours are worn out? Mine have done over 100 hard stainless pistols. They are still fine. Call me and let's discuss.

 

[Brian Marshall]

They can be "overworked".

Not just by the hardness of the metal they are driven into - but by pounding them down way past where the necessary impression has been already been made.

Back off a bit... you'll be happier with the results.

Enthusiasm has it's place, so does patience.

Of the two - patience is higher on the list in this kind of work.


Brian


Another note: Stonesetters beading tools were NEVER intended for use on steel. Period.

 

[sam]

E.C. Prudhomme taught me to make beading tools with a beading block and oil hardening drill rod. Heat to a yellow color and quench in beeswax and leave it there until it cools to room temp.

I think buying the Ngraver punches is the way to go though.

 

[JJ Roberts]

I've been using Ray's punch's,liner's and many of his other tools for 35 year's,you can't go wrong with Ray's fine line of engraving tools. J.J.

 

[monk]

i can say from experience-- this gentleman sells only good stuff-- no junk. he does demos with the same tools he sells

 

[dlilazteca]

The verdict is in engraver it is

Saludos,

Carlos

 

[Dale Hatfield]

I have used the Ngraver brand as well as jewelry made. Ngraver wins hands down.


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[diandwill]

Chris DeCamillas did a posting a while ago of gluing a single cut diamond to a 3/32" steel rod, and using that to reshape worn out beading toold. I have been buying them from Rio Grande and Stuller, and go through them pretty quick...slide the edge in a diamond a time or two and they just seem to wear. I should take Chris' advice and try that. Maybe buy some from the NGraver, if they are that much better.

 

[Brian Marshall]

NGraver makes dot punches for a specific purpose.

They will not work for setting stones... just like the beading tools don't work well for backgrounding gun parts.

Some horses run races, some horses pull wagons - you use the right one for the job or you don't get the job done.


Brian

 

[Dale Hatfield]

Here is what I did to my Ngraver dot punches. I enlarged the grip with a product called Sugru comes in many colors. Comes in a play dough form then hardens in the shape you made. Takes about 24 hours to fully harden.


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[dlilazteca]

Nice, thank you for sharing

Saludos,

Carlos