Ivory substitute

Travis Fry

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It depends on the purpose.

I come at it from the knifemaking perspective, so YMMV. I like ivory paper micarta if it's 1) going to be used 2) going to be sculpted or carved 3) not required to look exactly like ivory. The color is right, but it's very even and creamy, which is an advantage if that's what you want but a disadvantage if you really want it to look like ivory with simulated Schreger lines and stuff.

I like mammoth or fossil walrus ivory when I need to use actual ivory.

There are several synthetic imitation ivory products. Alternative Ivory is available from Masecraft. The Elfoyrn Super Tusk material from Maker Material Supply is also very nice (I think I like it a little better).

American Holly wood can be a nice substitute if you want a natural product and a nice color match, but it's wood and will behave as such.

There's nothing that's perfect, but mammoth and fossil walrus are by far the nicest alternatives to elephant.
 
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Guido.

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Hello tdelewis

Not sure on the size you need?
I have used A white billiard ball,the old ones were made from ivory.
The modern ones are made from a very hard Plastic ,called phenolic resin or polyester resin (not sure if they are classed as plastics.
It worked very well ,I made a new Hat for a Japanese ivory figure (circa 1880-1900) Meiji Period. 20230927_011142 (480x640).jpg 20230927_011223 (480x640).jpg 20230927_011241 (480x640).jpg I have.
Looked great when finished. I used a metal hacksaw ,ball held in vice for first flat cut.
I have attached images
Regards Guido
 

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Guido.

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Do not forget the Tagua Nuts, also called vegetable ivory.

More info in the following links:


Hello leonardo

I see you are in Argentina.

I would like to know if you could give me your opinion ?
could this box be made in Argentina? I bought it at the Rastro Market in Madrid some years ago.
is the name on lid F. Jauregui ,an Argentininan Name?
Also engraved on corners on base ,Felipe Toiris (?) Febrere ,1928.
The box looks hand made in silver plate.
Also has small medallion of Napoleon on lid. E Seurre, L Q mark (interlaced)

I have attached some images.
Regards Guido. 20230928_140947 (480x640).jpg 20230928_141111 (640x480).jpg 20230928_141551 (480x640).jpg 20230928_141631 (480x640).jpg 20230928_143711 (480x640).jpg 20230928_140947 (480x640).jpg 20230928_141111 (640x480).jpg 20230928_141551 (480x640).jpg 20230928_141631 (480x640).jpg 20230928_143642 (480x640).jpg 20230928_143711 (480x640).jpg 20230928_143642 (480x640).jpg
 
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Guido.

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Hi Leonardo
I see you are in Agentina.
Could you give me your opinion if this box may have been made in Agentina

I bought it some years ago at the Rastro Market in Madrid.
very black and dark ,when I polished it I ,I discovered ,On base engraved in corners Felipe Toiris(?) Febrero 1928.
Is the name on plaque F.Jauregui ,an Argentinian name?
Also has plaque of Napoleon ,With E,Seurre ,and LQ (interlaced) mark.
I feel the box is hand made,in silver plate.
Have you seen a box like this before?

Kind Regards Guido
 

Leonardo

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Hi Guido,
No, unfortunately I cannot help you with this.
I do not know any artist with this name and also I do not know anything about collection's boxes.

By the way, we were talking about ivory substitutes!
If you have a personal interest not related with the original object of a thread, I would suggest you to start a new one, or, as you also did, send a PM instead of hijacking someone else thread.
Moreover, I would also suggest you to edit your post and delete all that box's pictures you populated this thread with.
I am sorry for the rant but I was shocked by seeing all that not related pictures.

Regards,
Leonardo
 

Guido.

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Hello Leonardo
Many thanks for your reply.
I am sorry If I have not posted my question in the right way.

I felt that as you are from Argentina,You may have been able to help.
with the Name on the box.

I do not understand what you mean by hijacking someones thread,as I also offered my opinion on using billiard balls as a subistitute for Ivory in this same thread,
As I am new to this forum,I did not know ,I could contact you via private message (before my post)

Again I apologize if I have done some thing incorrectly.

Regards Guido.
 

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